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Hi,

 

I am testing swim lanes for a scenario in my requirements. But, I am unable to get my desired results.

 

Scenario: The scenario is that when a subordinate task completes and assigns back to ManagerTask. The manager who assigned the task should be getting the task again now without having to claim it. For this I have tried to use swim lanes but its not working. PFA BPMN2 and process image.

 

 

 

Regards,

 

Zahid

 

 

 

 


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Yeah, because as far as I know that's not the intention of a swimlane. The main idea is taht if you have multiple tasks in the same swimlane all of them will be assigned to the same actor, but in this case you have only one task in the swim lane and then you are going into the swimlane again, so it will create a new context again.. and that's the expected behavior as far as I know. 


On Mon, Sep 2, 2013 at 12:34 PM, Zahid Ahmed <[hidden email]> wrote:

Hi,

 

I am testing swim lanes for a scenario in my requirements. But, I am unable to get my desired results.

 

Scenario: The scenario is that when a subordinate task completes and assigns back to ManagerTask. The manager who assigned the task should be getting the task again now without having to claim it. For this I have tried to use swim lanes but its not working. PFA BPMN2 and process image.

 

 

 

Regards,

 

Zahid

 

 

 

 


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Hi Mauricio,

 

Thanks for the details. Could u please suggest a possible solution to make it work (Preferably with swimlanes).

 

One solution in my mind was to keep the Id of the assigning manager and group in a process variable. ManagerUser task will have actor and group attributes as follows.

1.       Actor => #{piManager}

2.       GroupID => #{piProcurementManagerGroup}

 

Flow 1

When for the first time flow comes to the ManagerUser, the #{piManager} will return an empty String “” and #{piProcurementManagerGroup} will return the groupId = “procurement”.

a.       #{piManager} = “”

b.      #{piProcurementManagerGroup} = “procurement”

 

In this flow the task will be assigned to the “procurement” group and will be available to claim.  

 

Flow 2

When flow leaves ManagerUser task it will populate the value of #{piManager} and will clearOff the val;ue of #{piProcurementManagerGroup}. So values will be as follows

c.       #{piManager} = “alex_manager”

d.      #{piProcurementManagerGroup} = “”

 

Now when the flow comes again to ManagerUser after submission from SubOrdinate UserTask, the task will be directly assigned to “alex_manager” user. As group is empty and there is only one user left for assignment, task will be directly assigned to “alex_manager” in RESERVED status.

 

 

NOTE : I was hoping to have a simpler solution without having to implement this logic in script variables or in process definition.\

 

 

Regards,

 

Zahid

 

From: [hidden email] [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of Mauricio Salatino
Sent: 02 September 2013 15:41
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Subject: Re: [rules-users] JBPM : Need solution with SwimLane

 

Yeah, because as far as I know that's not the intention of a swimlane. The main idea is taht if you have multiple tasks in the same swimlane all of them will be assigned to the same actor, but in this case you have only one task in the swim lane and then you are going into the swimlane again, so it will create a new context again.. and that's the expected behavior as far as I know. 

 

On Mon, Sep 2, 2013 at 12:34 PM, Zahid Ahmed <[hidden email]> wrote:

Hi,

 

I am testing swim lanes for a scenario in my requirements. But, I am unable to get my desired results.

 

Scenario: The scenario is that when a subordinate task completes and assigns back to ManagerTask. The manager who assigned the task should be getting the task again now without having to claim it. For this I have tried to use swim lanes but its not working. PFA BPMN2 and process image.

 

 

 

Regards,

 

Zahid

 

 

 

 


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You can try with adding a ManagerUser2 task in the same swimlane that the first task ManagerUser task instead of going back to the first one. 


On Tue, Sep 3, 2013 at 5:46 AM, Zahid Ahmed <[hidden email]> wrote:

Hi Mauricio,

 

Thanks for the details. Could u please suggest a possible solution to make it work (Preferably with swimlanes).

 

One solution in my mind was to keep the Id of the assigning manager and group in a process variable. ManagerUser task will have actor and group attributes as follows.

1.       Actor => #{piManager}

2.       GroupID => #{piProcurementManagerGroup}

 

Flow 1

When for the first time flow comes to the ManagerUser, the #{piManager} will return an empty String “” and #{piProcurementManagerGroup} will return the groupId = “procurement”.

a.       #{piManager} = “”

b.      #{piProcurementManagerGroup} = “procurement”

 

In this flow the task will be assigned to the “procurement” group and will be available to claim.  

 

Flow 2

When flow leaves ManagerUser task it will populate the value of #{piManager} and will clearOff the val;ue of #{piProcurementManagerGroup}. So values will be as follows

c.       #{piManager} = “alex_manager”

d.      #{piProcurementManagerGroup} = “”

 

Now when the flow comes again to ManagerUser after submission from SubOrdinate UserTask, the task will be directly assigned to “alex_manager” user. As group is empty and there is only one user left for assignment, task will be directly assigned to “alex_manager” in RESERVED status.

 

 

NOTE : I was hoping to have a simpler solution without having to implement this logic in script variables or in process definition.\

 

 

Regards,

 

Zahid

 

From: [hidden email] [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of Mauricio Salatino
Sent: 02 September 2013 15:41
To: Rules Users List
Subject: Re: [rules-users] JBPM : Need solution with SwimLane

 

Yeah, because as far as I know that's not the intention of a swimlane. The main idea is taht if you have multiple tasks in the same swimlane all of them will be assigned to the same actor, but in this case you have only one task in the swim lane and then you are going into the swimlane again, so it will create a new context again.. and that's the expected behavior as far as I know. 

 

On Mon, Sep 2, 2013 at 12:34 PM, Zahid Ahmed <[hidden email]> wrote:

Hi,

 

I am testing swim lanes for a scenario in my requirements. But, I am unable to get my desired results.

 

Scenario: The scenario is that when a subordinate task completes and assigns back to ManagerTask. The manager who assigned the task should be getting the task again now without having to claim it. For this I have tried to use swim lanes but its not working. PFA BPMN2 and process image.

 

 

 

Regards,

 

Zahid

 

 

 

 


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Hi Mauricio,

 

That could be the solution but it will add a lot of extra userTasks in my workflows. Is there any solution planned for this or is it worth solving.

 

Regards,

 

Zahid

 

 

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Sent: 03 September 2013 13:03
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Subject: Re: [rules-users] JBPM : Need solution with SwimLane

 

You can try with adding a ManagerUser2 task in the same swimlane that the first task ManagerUser task instead of going back to the first one. 

 

On Tue, Sep 3, 2013 at 5:46 AM, Zahid Ahmed <[hidden email]> wrote:

Hi Mauricio,

 

Thanks for the details. Could u please suggest a possible solution to make it work (Preferably with swimlanes).

 

One solution in my mind was to keep the Id of the assigning manager and group in a process variable. ManagerUser task will have actor and group attributes as follows.

1.       Actor => #{piManager}

2.       GroupID => #{piProcurementManagerGroup}

 

Flow 1

When for the first time flow comes to the ManagerUser, the #{piManager} will return an empty String “” and #{piProcurementManagerGroup} will return the groupId = “procurement”.

a.       #{piManager} = “”

b.      #{piProcurementManagerGroup} = “procurement”

 

In this flow the task will be assigned to the “procurement” group and will be available to claim.  

 

Flow 2

When flow leaves ManagerUser task it will populate the value of #{piManager} and will clearOff the val;ue of #{piProcurementManagerGroup}. So values will be as follows

c.       #{piManager} = “alex_manager”

d.      #{piProcurementManagerGroup} = “”

 

Now when the flow comes again to ManagerUser after submission from SubOrdinate UserTask, the task will be directly assigned to “alex_manager” user. As group is empty and there is only one user left for assignment, task will be directly assigned to “alex_manager” in RESERVED status.

 

 

NOTE : I was hoping to have a simpler solution without having to implement this logic in script variables or in process definition.\

 

 

Regards,

 

Zahid

 

From: [hidden email] [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of Mauricio Salatino
Sent: 02 September 2013 15:41
To: Rules Users List
Subject: Re: [rules-users] JBPM : Need solution with SwimLane

 

Yeah, because as far as I know that's not the intention of a swimlane. The main idea is taht if you have multiple tasks in the same swimlane all of them will be assigned to the same actor, but in this case you have only one task in the swim lane and then you are going into the swimlane again, so it will create a new context again.. and that's the expected behavior as far as I know. 

 

On Mon, Sep 2, 2013 at 12:34 PM, Zahid Ahmed <[hidden email]> wrote:

Hi,

 

I am testing swim lanes for a scenario in my requirements. But, I am unable to get my desired results.

 

Scenario: The scenario is that when a subordinate task completes and assigns back to ManagerTask. The manager who assigned the task should be getting the task again now without having to claim it. For this I have tried to use swim lanes but its not working. PFA BPMN2 and process image.

 

 

 

Regards,

 

Zahid

 

 

 

 


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